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quest: plan one lag-driven audio playout rule before the cut - #8663
An audit of main's audio playout, which the cut would publish for the first time, found the 2026-11-09 stretch model (moq-dev/moq#8507, moq-dev/moq#8532) arbitrary in ways the numbers show. The evidence came from two simulations running the real ring and stretch code and from the 11-09 to 11-13 Nightly audio-quality-run artifacts.
Audio rests off the clock. The decision is NetEq's buffer-level controller, but here the shared clock decides where audio belongs. With the newest frame J late, level = target + frame - J, so audio rests up to J behind: browser wide +32 to 41 ms, AAC bursty +37 to 47 ms, and natively 70 to 80 ms once video's arrivals move the reference.
Catch-up follows the content, not the error. One pitch period per 50 ms cooldown gives 4 to 20%, and 0% on music or noise that fails correlation; a 1.4 s offset held indefinitely in simulation.
An audio setting makes video wait. Native video waits delay + stretch on a missing group (play/args.rsvideo_max_delay).
Output latency is never counted. Audio is heard later than video by the device latency in both players, and natively a fixed 50 ms floor raises the whole shared clock instead.
The clock reference only moves earlier, while the estimator only looks at the last 2 s, so a lasting path-delay step leaves the clock stale.
Approach
Planning only. The audio-jitter-target epic moves from m1 to m2 as audio playout, with a new rule in its Goal: audio follows the shared clock by its lag alone. It stretches up to a 200 ms threshold at no more than 10%, snaps past it, is measured where it is heard, and the target falls back soon after a one-off spike.
Gaps: ✅ slow down within the threshold when received audio runs low (rejected: lag only).
Target fall: ✅ the implementer measures (rejected: a shorter half-life now; one observation per outage now).
Setting: ✅ stretch stays a duration and is the threshold (rejected: an on/off switch; removing it).
Buffered: ✅ snaps past the larger of lookahead and threshold (rejected: the threshold alone).
Milestone: ✅ epic in m2, calibration in m3 (rejected: all in m2; only the lag rule in m2).
These overturn, from 2026-11-09, the 2 s bound, gliding to each target, NetEq's untuned thresholds and rates, and "the estimator stays as it is"; and from 2026-11-11, "the bound alone decides a lag skip". The calibrate quest's native-opus near-zero watch was dropped: the 11-12 and 11-13 nights filed 0 underruns.
Impact
None: quest files only.
Alternatives
Keeping the epic in m1: the cut would ship the 2 s model and the stretch, Sink::due, and bus::Positioned shapes.
One quest for the threshold and the controller together: it would delay the congestion fix behind an XL rewrite.
Follow-ups
moq-dev/studio quest/m0/pin-bus-stretch.md passes bus::Positioned the 2 s bound moq play defaults to. The default becomes 200 ms, and jumped leaves Sink::due and bus::Positioned. This is for /quest-plan in studio.
Validation
quest check: 508 documents ok.
quest gate just ci: passed (75 s).
No behavior to exercise. The audit's numbers come from the 11-09 to 11-13 Nightly artifacts and from simulations that compile the unmodified ring.rs/stretch.rs and ring-buffer.ts/stretch.ts.
Models
Size: M
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, unknown effort
Move the audio jitter target epic to m2 as audio-playout, re-scoped to a rule
driven by audio's lag behind the shared clock: stretch up to a 200 ms
threshold at no more than 10% with a continuous time stretch, snap past it,
measure lag where audio is heard, and let the target fall back soon after a
one-off spike. Calibration moves to m3 behind the epic.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes: quest planning files only, no code. I read the full diff and grepped for stale m1/audio-jitter-target links. There are none, and the old directory is gone.
Epic move: audio-jitter-target goes from m1 to m2 as audio-playout, with a new Goal (one lag-driven rule) and recorded decisions.
New and re-scoped quests: lag-rule [XL], target-fall [M], output-latency (was render-callback), congestion-catch-up and clock-step.
Calibration: audio-calibrate moves to m3, with a new recovery metric and a Required link to the epic.
Link alignment: m4 bufferbloat, the WebRTC vendor sync, the Nightly epic and the m2 README log now point at the new paths.
Merged Nightly quests: the four m0/nightly children come from the merged quest-plan/nightly-2026-11-13 branch. They are consistent with the new paths.
The pull request adds Nightly investigation plans and reorganizes audio playout documentation. It moves the playout epic to m2, documents its lag-based stretching and snapping rule and related design plans, and updates calibration criteria and milestone references. It also removes three m1 audio-jitter documents and changes related quest links.
Merge Risk: Low · up to ec92d
This PR only adds and moves planning documents, so nothing changes in production. Before the plans are implemented, a few should be corrected: the send-depth gate would not catch the Fuzz build failure, the browser latency target should use baseLatency, and the buffered-player exception should be stated consistently.
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The title states the main change: a planning-only update that adds one lag-driven audio playout rule before the cut. The raw summary and objectives confirm the new lag-rule plan, the epic move to m2, and the related planning documents.
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The description is specific and on-topic. It explains the audit findings behind the stretch model, the planning-only approach that moves the audio-jitter-target epic from m1 to m2 as audio-playout, the milestone move of audio calibration to m3, the individual quest documents touched, the decisions settled on 2026-11-13, and the validation results. This matches the changeset, which consists of planning and quest documents under quest/m0 through quest/m4.
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Review comments at @quest/m0/nightly/send-depth-gate.md:
- Around line 7-9: The send-depth check does not compile the Fuzz binaries, so
it cannot substantiate the claimed coverage. Update the quest to reflect the
failing job’s rustc error: establish whether the recursion-depth lint caused the
failure, then either specify a gate that builds the failing moq-net and moq-rtmp
fuzz binaries with the same nightly toolchain and flags, or remove the claim and
record the Fuzz build as the gate target.
Review comments at @quest/m2/audio-playout/congestion-catch-up.md:
- Around line 36-39: Update the congestion catch-up plan’s skip rule to exempt
buffered players: they should skip only when lag exceeds the larger of the
lookahead and the threshold, consistent with lag-rule.md and
js/watch/src/sync.ts. Clarify the audio subscription bound for buffered players,
reconciling the plan’s delay-plus-2-second setting with sync.ts’s maxDelay of
delay plus lookahead; state which bound applies without changing unrelated
behavior.
Review comments at @quest/m2/audio-playout/output-latency.md:
- Around line 38-40: Update the audio-target guidance to use the browser’s
reported baseLatency plus outputLatency, rather than the render quantum or
measured callback size. Keep the native guidance based on the device period plus
host-reported latency.
Review comments at @quest/m2/audio-playout/README.md:
- Around line 9-11: Update the goal statement in the audio playout README to
state the buffered-player exception: with a 1 s lookahead and 300 ms lag, the
player does not snap. Keep the goal consistent with the buffered decision and
lag rule.
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Buffered players keep their lookahead in the goal and the congestion fix,
the browser target counts baseLatency, and the send-depth gate builds what
failed.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes
Reviewed the doc-only delta since the prior Pullfrog review (ec92d2c).
send-depth-gate: Corrected to gate on what the fuzz build actually failed on, not the send test alone.
audio-playout README and congestion-catch-up: A buffered player now snaps only past the larger of its lookahead and the threshold, and the #8611 max-delay interaction is noted.
output-latency: Reworded the browser target to baseLatency plus outputLatency.
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Problem
An audit of
main's audio playout, which the cut would publish for the first time, found the 2026-11-09 stretch model (moq-dev/moq#8507, moq-dev/moq#8532) arbitrary in ways the numbers show. The evidence came from two simulations running the real ring and stretch code and from the 11-09 to 11-13 Nightlyaudio-quality-runartifacts.level = target + frame - J, so audio rests up to J behind: browserwide+32 to 41 ms, AACbursty+37 to 47 ms, and natively 70 to 80 ms once video's arrivals move the reference.delay + stretchon a missing group (play/args.rsvideo_max_delay).Approach
Planning only. The
audio-jitter-targetepic moves from m1 to m2 as audio playout, with a new rule in its Goal: audio follows the shared clock by its lag alone. It stretches up to a 200 ms threshold at no more than 10%, snaps past it, is measured where it is heard, and the target falls back soon after a one-off spike.stretchstops sizing the subscription, hole and decode limits, and video's wait;jumpedleavesSink::dueandbus::Positioned.Tests (rs send-depth)passed while the moq-net and moq-rtmp Fuzz builds failed, so the gate must build what failed. The decision to gate it stands.congestion-catch-upno longer links the quest moq-dev/moq#8611 finished, and notes that its hole skip sits at the audio max delay.Decisions
Settled 2026-11-13 by the maintainer in /quest-plan and recorded in the epic's Plan:
stretchstays a duration and is the threshold (rejected: an on/off switch; removing it).These overturn, from 2026-11-09, the 2 s bound, gliding to each target, NetEq's untuned thresholds and rates, and "the estimator stays as it is"; and from 2026-11-11, "the bound alone decides a lag skip". The calibrate quest's native-opus near-zero watch was dropped: the 11-12 and 11-13 nights filed 0 underruns.
Impact
None: quest files only.
Alternatives
stretch,Sink::due, andbus::Positionedshapes.Follow-ups
quest/m0/pin-bus-stretch.mdpassesbus::Positionedthe 2 s boundmoq playdefaults to. The default becomes 200 ms, andjumpedleavesSink::dueandbus::Positioned. This is for/quest-planin studio.Validation
quest check: 508 documents ok.quest gate just ci: passed (75 s).ring.rs/stretch.rsandring-buffer.ts/stretch.ts.Models
Size: M
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, unknown effort
(Written by Claude Opus 5.5)
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Review
Rewritten by
quest reviewafter each round.Head: 35604c6
Base: origin/main at 1db0cf9
Reviewer: Codex, gpt-6.1-sol, high effort
Session:
01a1d68c-bb93-7841-b544-29b8de62b9a2, round 4Score: 10/10,
The new head only merges base-branch changes, preserving the previously reviewed plans without introducing actionable defects.Rounds: 4; findings 0: fixed 0, refuted 0, open 0
Findings: none