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quest: plan remote desktop's moq primitives, and move teleop to kixel.ai - #8702
A MoQ remote desktop is planned as a Kixel product: an agent or a person drives a desktop over the mesh. The Kixel app is planned in kixel.ai (kixel-ai/kixel.ai, PR linked below), and it needs four media primitives from moq. The four parked teleop quests are robotics, which is now planned in kixel.ai too.
Approach
New quests:
[L] quest/m2/refresh-interval.md: a TRACK_INFO refresh interval plus a public refresh() (Rust and @moq/net), so a one-frame track gets a fresh group on join or on request, at most once per interval across every hop. Today's byte-ratio Refresh never fires for a one-frame group, and Subscriber::join is pub(crate).
[L] quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md: a hang thumbnail catalog section (renditions: mime, size, lossless PNG included), with a moq-video producer that encodes the newest frame on refresh.
[M] quest/m4/capture-portal-session.md: moq-video captures from a RemoteDesktop portal session the caller opens, so a single consent covers capture and input.
[L] quest/m4/capture-cursor.md: capture reports the cursor's position and shape apart from the frame.
Deleted: quest/m5/teleop-{robot,arbitration,mavlink,proof}.md, recreated as kixel.ai's quest/m3/teleop/. The mesh epic's Related link to teleop is dropped.
Decisions
✅ Plan the remote desktop in kixel.ai, with the video and audio primitives in moq (rejected: planning it in moq). Robotics and AI work moves to kixel.ai for branding.
✅ Move all four teleop quests to kixel.ai m3, parked (rejected: arbitration only; leaving them; kixel.ai m2). Their decisions move with them unchanged, plus a note that the desktop host builds the shared one-controller rule first.
✅ Refresh by interval in moq m2, inside lite-07 (rejected: m4 and lite-08). Its consumer is later work, but missing the lite-07 freeze costs a wire version.
✅ A hang thumbnail section (rejected: the existing binary section with mime: image/png); schema plus producer together, m4 (rejected: schema only).
✅ The cursor separately (rejected: drawn into the frame); m4 like the portal session, since the consumer's plans are later (kixel.ai m2).
✅ The refresh interval is a duration measured on each node's own monotonic clock from the group's arrival, like arrival-age expiry (rejected: media start timestamps, which carry no wall-clock meaning and no unit when scale-less). refresh() has a request barrier: it resolves only with a group that reached the answering node after the request, and an empty track's first reader gets the first group at once (rejected: resolving with any group newer than the reader's).
✅ The thumbnail producer encodes each still after the request, from the newest delivered frame (rejected: waiting for a newer frame, which a static screen never delivers).
✅ The portal session API forwards mapping_id, takes position and size as optional, takes a handle that yields a fresh PipeWire fd per open (rejected: one fd, which the first open consumes), and requires the caller to select the metadata cursor mode, else Unsupported at setup.
✅ The cursor report is current state plus change notifications, with each shape starting its group, so a late viewer reads the shape first (rejected: an event log needing replay).
✅ quest/m5/teleop-robot.md stays deleted in the merge of main, whose audit narrowed it (rejected: keeping main's narrowed copy here).
Decided 2026-11-14 (maintainer, /quest-complete): ✅ merge; ✅ keep refresh-interval in m2 (rejected: m4 and lite-08, drop it); ✅ keep hang-thumbnail, capture-portal-session and capture-cursor in m4 (rejected: move to m5, drop them).
Impact
None: quest files only.
Validation
quest check: 509 documents ok after merging main. No behavior to exercise.
Alternatives
Each decision above lists the options it rejected.
Follow-ups
None beyond the quests above, plus one for kixel.ai: quest/m3/teleop/robot.md there is the pre-audit text. Main's audit narrowed it to [S] because doc/concept/use-case/teleoperation.md (staying in moq) already documents the delivery shapes. Carry that narrowing over with /quest-plan in kixel.ai (git show 72fd1918c -- quest/m5/teleop-robot.md shows it).
Models
Size: M
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, unknown effort
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-sonnet-5-5, unknown effort (iterate, M)
Fixed: medium, quest/m2/refresh-interval.md:65: Make the refresh barrier causal at the publisher; quest/m2/refresh-interval.md:65 now requires publisher-side causal acknowledgement through update numbers and explicitly requires weakening the thumbnail promise if arrival-based semantics are chosen instead.
Fixed: medium, quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md:45: Reconcile repeated stills with timestamp-based group identities; quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md:45 now assigns each still a strictly increasing sampling timestamp on media.clock, giving repeated refreshes distinct group identities even when they reuse the same source frame.
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes: the full diff, which is quest planning files only, plus a check for dangling references to the removed teleop quests.
refresh-interval (m2): plans a TRACK_INFO refresh interval and a public refresh().
hang-thumbnail, capture-portal-session, capture-cursor (m4): plan the thumbnail catalog section, capture from a caller's portal session, and a separate cursor stream.
Teleop quests removed (m5): the four quests are deleted, and the mesh README's link to them is dropped. No remaining references to quest/m5/teleop-* in quest/ or doc/. The links in the new quests (time-addressing/lite07.md, capture-linux.md) point to files that exist.
The changes add quest documents describing proposed refresh-interval behavior, cursor capture, caller-owned portal-session capture, and hang thumbnails. They also remove four teleoperation planning documents and a related entry from the mesh README. The changes document plans and remove documentation; the summaries report no implementation changes.
Merge Risk: Low · up to c1516
This change only updates planning documents and moves the teleop quests, so nothing runs differently. Several planned contracts should be tightened before implementation begins. The gaps are cheap to fix and none blocks merging.
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The title names the two main parts of the changeset: planning remote desktop MoQ primitives in the quest documents, and moving teleop quests to kixel.ai. The raw summary and objectives both describe these same changes, so the title matches the main change.
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The description states the PR's purpose: planning four MoQ media primitives for a Kixel remote desktop, and moving the four teleop quests to kixel.ai. This matches the changeset, which adds the refresh-interval, hang-thumbnail, capture-portal-session, and capture-cursor quests and deletes the m5 teleop quests and the mesh README Related link. The description is specific and related to the changes, so it passes.
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Review comments at @quest/m2/refresh-interval.md:
- Around line 5-6: Clarify the refresh-interval semantics before implementation:
define the clock used to measure group age, the interval’s unit for scale-less
tracks, and whether age begins at the group’s media start or when a relay first
receives it. Keep the definition consistent with the time-addressing plan and
its removal of the model’s local clock.
Review comments at @quest/m4/capture-cursor.md:
- Around line 30-31: Update the caller-facing contract in
capture-portal-session.md to require selecting metadata cursor mode through
SelectSources() before starting the session, and specify that capture returns
Unsupported when the session uses another cursor mode.
- Around line 41-42: Update the cursor-stream plan near the recommendation so
late or reconnecting subscribers receive the current shape before any position
that references it. Specify whether recovery uses a snapshot or replay, without
leaving the mechanism undecided.
Review comments at @quest/m4/capture-portal-session.md:
- Around line 28-31: Update the capture reopen contract to specify how every
open obtains a fresh PipeWire remote fd: either require the caller to supply a
new fd for each open or have capture request one from the caller-owned session
on each reopen. Preserve caller ownership of the session and restore token, and
do not imply that a consumed fd can be reused.
- Around line 7-9: Update the `moq_video::capture` plan so its forwarded stream
metadata includes the portal’s `mapping_id` alongside size and position,
enabling the consumer to match the stream to its libei region. Keep input
mapping outside moq.
- Line 28: Update the capture plan wording to clarify that stream size and
position come from the portal only when provided; position is absent for window
streams and size is optional. Specify that moq_video::capture must accept both
as optional and define the fallback for either missing value.
Review comments at @quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md:
- Around line 10-11: Update the thumbnail plan and refresh plan to define
startup behavior for an empty thumbnail track: state whether the first reader
join or refresh() creates the first group immediately, and clarify whether the
refresh interval applies to that first group. Ensure both plans describe the
same rule.
- Around line 10-12: Define in the refresh() contract in
quest/m2/refresh-interval.md that its result must come from a capture begun
after the refresh request, so an already-running capture cannot satisfy it;
reference this rule from the thumbnail guidance in quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md.
Preserve the requirement that agents request the refresh after each action
settles, giving Rust and JavaScript implementations the same contract.
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quest/m2/refresh-interval.md
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quest/m4/capture-cursor.md
quest/m4/capture-portal-session.md
quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md
quest/m5/teleop-arbitration.md
quest/m5/teleop-mavlink.md
quest/m5/teleop-proof.md
quest/m5/teleop-robot.md
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quest/m5/teleop-arbitration.md
quest/m5/teleop-mavlink.md
quest/m5/teleop-proof.md
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Define the refresh interval's clock and unit, give refresh() a request barrier,
settle the first image of an empty track, and pin the portal session and cursor
contracts the review found open.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Sonnet 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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✅ No new issues found.
Reviewed changes since the prior review, quest files only:
Refresh interval semantics: the interval is now a duration measured on each node's own monotonic clock from group arrival, and an empty track's first reader asks for the first group at once.
Causal refresh() barrier: a group answers a request only if the publisher created it after receiving it, using SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE's update numbers, with a stated fallback if the wire cost is too high.
Thumbnail identity: each still is stamped with its sampling time on media.clock, strictly increasing, and encoded after the request from the newest delivered frame.
Portal session and cursor: the session forwards mapping_id, takes optional position and size and a fresh-fd handle, and requires the metadata cursor mode. The cursor report is current state plus change notifications.
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Problem
A MoQ remote desktop is planned as a Kixel product: an agent or a person drives a desktop over the mesh. The Kixel app is planned in kixel.ai (kixel-ai/kixel.ai, PR linked below), and it needs four media primitives from moq. The four parked teleop quests are robotics, which is now planned in kixel.ai too.
Approach
New quests:
quest/m2/refresh-interval.md: a TRACK_INFO refresh interval plus a publicrefresh()(Rust and@moq/net), so a one-frame track gets a fresh group on join or on request, at most once per interval across every hop. Today's byte-ratioRefreshnever fires for a one-frame group, andSubscriber::joinispub(crate).quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md: a hangthumbnailcatalog section (renditions: mime, size, lossless PNG included), with a moq-video producer that encodes the newest frame on refresh.quest/m4/capture-portal-session.md: moq-video captures from a RemoteDesktop portal session the caller opens, so a single consent covers capture and input.quest/m4/capture-cursor.md: capture reports the cursor's position and shape apart from the frame.Deleted:
quest/m5/teleop-{robot,arbitration,mavlink,proof}.md, recreated as kixel.ai'squest/m3/teleop/. The mesh epic's Related link to teleop is dropped.Decisions
✅ Plan the remote desktop in kixel.ai, with the video and audio primitives in moq (rejected: planning it in moq). Robotics and AI work moves to kixel.ai for branding.
✅ Move all four teleop quests to kixel.ai m3, parked (rejected: arbitration only; leaving them; kixel.ai m2). Their decisions move with them unchanged, plus a note that the desktop host builds the shared one-controller rule first.
✅ Refresh by interval in moq m2, inside lite-07 (rejected: m4 and lite-08). Its consumer is later work, but missing the lite-07 freeze costs a wire version.
✅ A hang
thumbnailsection (rejected: the existingbinarysection withmime: image/png); schema plus producer together, m4 (rejected: schema only).✅ The cursor separately (rejected: drawn into the frame); m4 like the portal session, since the consumer's plans are later (kixel.ai m2).
✅ The refresh interval is a duration measured on each node's own monotonic clock from the group's arrival, like arrival-age expiry (rejected: media start timestamps, which carry no wall-clock meaning and no unit when scale-less).
refresh()has a request barrier: it resolves only with a group that reached the answering node after the request, and an empty track's first reader gets the first group at once (rejected: resolving with any group newer than the reader's).✅ The thumbnail producer encodes each still after the request, from the newest delivered frame (rejected: waiting for a newer frame, which a static screen never delivers).
✅ The portal session API forwards
mapping_id, takespositionandsizeas optional, takes a handle that yields a fresh PipeWire fd per open (rejected: one fd, which the first open consumes), and requires the caller to select the metadata cursor mode, elseUnsupportedat setup.✅ The cursor report is current state plus change notifications, with each shape starting its group, so a late viewer reads the shape first (rejected: an event log needing replay).
✅
quest/m5/teleop-robot.mdstays deleted in the merge of main, whose audit narrowed it (rejected: keeping main's narrowed copy here).Decided 2026-11-14 (maintainer, /quest-complete): ✅ merge; ✅ keep refresh-interval in m2 (rejected: m4 and lite-08, drop it); ✅ keep hang-thumbnail, capture-portal-session and capture-cursor in m4 (rejected: move to m5, drop them).
Impact
None: quest files only.
Validation
quest check: 509 documents ok after merging main. No behavior to exercise.Alternatives
Each decision above lists the options it rejected.
Follow-ups
None beyond the quests above, plus one for kixel.ai:
quest/m3/teleop/robot.mdthere is the pre-audit text. Main's audit narrowed it to [S] becausedoc/concept/use-case/teleoperation.md(staying in moq) already documents the delivery shapes. Carry that narrowing over with/quest-planin kixel.ai (git show 72fd1918c -- quest/m5/teleop-robot.mdshows it).Models
Size: M
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, unknown effort
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-sonnet-5-5, unknown effort (iterate, M)
(Written by Claude Opus 5.5)
🤖 Generated with Claude Code
Review
Rewritten by
quest reviewafter each round.Head: 30b6d84
Base: origin/main at 9b80cfc
Reviewer: Codex, gpt-6.1-sol, high effort
Session:
01a1db22-4d80-76e2-9646-dbb27042b417, round 2Score: 10/10,
Both prior findings are fixed in the head, and the incremental changes introduce no additional blocking issues.Rounds: 2; findings 2 (medium 2): fixed 2, refuted 0, open 0
Findings: none
The last round's findings, at 066d847:
quest/m2/refresh-interval.md:65:Make the refresh barrier causal at the publisher;quest/m2/refresh-interval.md:65 now requires publisher-side causal acknowledgement through update numbers and explicitly requires weakening the thumbnail promise if arrival-based semantics are chosen instead.quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md:45:Reconcile repeated stills with timestamp-based group identities;quest/m4/hang-thumbnail.md:45 now assigns each still a strictly increasing sampling timestamp on media.clock, giving repeated refreshes distinct group identities even when they reuse the same source frame.