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Claims quest/m1/audio-jitter-target/delay-cap.md.

Problem

A catalog that advertises a huge jitter, delay, or warmup delays a viewer's playback, and the media it buffers, by that much. The browser had no ceiling on delay="auto" or on warmup. moq play capped its jitter target and catalog delay at LATENCY_MAX (10 s, #8532) each, so their sum reached 20 s, and Rust's Playout widened its subscription by any warmup.

Approach

  • Sync#runDelay caps the resolved "auto" delay at DELAY_MAX (10 s), an internal constant matching moq_audio::playback::Input::LATENCY_MAX. The cap sits on the resolved delay, not on each term, so audio and video stay on one clock. A fixed delay is left alone: the viewer chose it.
  • moq play caps its audio target sum, held jitter plus catalog delay, at LATENCY_MAX, so one 10 s ceiling holds everywhere.
  • The browser clamps catalog warmup at DELAY_MAX where audio and video read it for the subscription and the container consumer. moq_mux::container::Playout clamps it at WARMUP_MAX (10 s) in both its subscription and its consumer, covering moq-audio, moq-ffi, and moq-gst. The video refresh lanes, moq_video::decode::Consumer and moq play's, add the warmup to a Delay themselves, so they clamp with the same moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX.
  • Every decoder join trim clamps its warmup too: the browser's audio terminal at DELAY_MAX, moq_audio::decode::Consumer and moq-gst's OpusClip at WARMUP_MAX. Otherwise an hour of warmup trims an hour of audio past a join whose subscription reaches back 10 s.
  • Tests, on mock time: an hour of jitter and delay resolves to 10 s in Sync; moq play sounds a 10 s target plus an hour of catalog delay at 10 s; an hour of warmup widens the browser's audio and video subscriptions, Rust's Playout, and moq_video::decode::Consumer's refresh subscription, by 10 s. An hour of warmup trims at most 10 s at the browser's audio terminal, moq-audio's decoder, and moq-gst's Opus clip. The browser, moq-video, and join-trim tests fail without their clamp. moq play's refresh lane has no test: opening it needs a real decoder, and its one-line clamp shares the constant the moq-video test pins.

Impact

  • Public API: none. DELAY_MAX is @internal. Adds moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX (pub const), shared by moq-video and moq-cli. Playout::warmup stays a public field, now documented as capped at 10 s.
  • Wire: none.
  • Behavior: delay="auto" in @moq/watch and moq play's audio clock stop at 10 s, and a catalog warmup reaches back at most 10 s. Not breaking, so no !.

Decisions

Decided by the coordinator on the maintainer's behalf while away, from this PR's recommendations:

  • ✅ (a) cap moq play's audio target sum at LATENCY_MAX too, so one 10 s ceiling holds everywhere (rejected: (b) raise the browser to 20 s; (c) keep the mismatch).
  • ✅ (a) clamp catalog warmup at LATENCY_MAX where the browser reads it, and in Rust's playout for parity (rejected: (b) reject the rendition; (c) leave unbounded).

Choices made while the maintainer was away:

  • The Rust warmup clamp sits in moq_mux::container::Playout (where rs/hang catalogs meet playout), not in hang's catalog parsing, so the catalog still round-trips what the publisher wrote.
  • One shared constant, moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX, clamped at each site that adds warmup to a Delay itself, rather than a helper per crate or a clamp in hang's catalog.
  • ✅ Each decoder's join trim is capped at the same ceiling (the browser's audio terminal in #runLegacyDecoder and #runCmafDecoder, moq_audio::decode::Consumer, moq-gst's OpusClip), reversing the earlier "leave the join trim uncapped" choice (rejected: uncapped, which held playback silent for the advertised warmup while the subscription only reaches back 10 s). moq-gst caps inside OpusClip::new, the trim itself, since its Playout already caps the subscription.

Alternatives

  • Cap each term (audio's target, video's spread + delay). Rejected: audio and video would no longer hold one clock.
  • A viewer-set ceiling. Rejected for now: it adds public API, and the quest settled on a constant matching moq play.

Findings

  • The browser's DELAY_MAX and moq-mux's WARMUP_MAX are pinned to LATENCY_MAX by comment alone, since no test builds them together; rs/moq-cli/src/play/args.rs pins moq play's DELAY_MAX.

Verification

  • just check passes locally through quest gate.
  • Not run: a live playback check in a real browser with just dev.

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  • Reviewer: Codex, gpt-6.1-sol, low effort
  • Session: 01a1d044-c01c-7d30-bcdb-f6ff2d1e62ae, round 1
  • Head: b068948
  • Base: origin/main at a14ff6d
  • Score: 9/10, No actionable regressions were identified; delay and warmup caps are consistently applied with targeted regression coverage, though builds and tests were not run as instructed.
  • Findings: none

kixelated and others added 2 commits November 12, 2026 01:23
The browser held whatever the catalog advertised as jitter and delay, so an
hour of either delayed playback and buffered media by an hour. Cap the
resolved "auto" delay at DELAY_MAX, the moq play ceiling, once in Sync so
audio and video stay on one clock. A fixed delay is still taken literally.

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@kixelated kixelated changed the title A publisher's advertised delay cannot hold a browser viewer without bound fix(watch): an auto delay stops at 10 s Nov 12, 2026
…d a catalog warmup

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@kixelated kixelated changed the title fix(watch): an auto delay stops at 10 s fix(watch,moq-cli,moq-mux): an auto delay and a catalog warmup stop at 10 s Nov 12, 2026
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The browser now caps automatic delay and catalog warmup at 10 seconds. Fixed-duration delays remain unchanged. Rust playback caps catalog warmup and the combined audio target. Tests cover the capped values in browser and Rust playback paths.

Merge Risk: Minimal · up to b0689

This change caps automatic playback delay and catalog warmup at 10 seconds across browser and Rust playback. The earlier join-trim problem was fixed and is covered by tests. No concrete merge-blocking risk remains. A live browser playback check was not run, which is a normal validation gap.

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Title check Passed The title names the two capped quantities, the auto delay and the catalog warmup, and the 10 s limit. The changeset does that: it caps delay="auto" in the browser and moq play audio target, and ca…
Description check Passed The description states the problem, the approach, the public API impact, the tests, and the verification status. It matches the changeset: the DELAY_MAX cap in Sync#runDelay, the moq play audio …
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The title names the two capped quantities, the auto delay and the catalog warmup, and the 10 s limit. The changeset does that: it caps delay="auto" in the browser and moq play audio target, and caps catalog warmup in the browser, Rust playout, and decoders. The title's scope list (watch, moq-cli, moq-mux) matches the touched packages. It omits the join-trim and video-refresh parts, which is expected for a title.

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The description states the problem, the approach, the public API impact, the tests, and the verification status. It matches the changeset: the DELAY_MAX cap in Sync#runDelay, the moq play audio target cap, the WARMUP_MAX constant in moq-mux, and the decoder join trim changes.

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Important

The warmup cap is right, but it only applies where a caller passes the warmup to Playout: both Rust video paths add the catalog warmup to the Delay themselves, so the "one 10 s ceiling" still doesn't hold for moq-video (the decoder behind moq-ffi) or moq play's video refresh.

Reviewed changes

  • "auto" delay ceiling — Sync#runDelay caps the resolved auto delay once at an internal DELAY_MAX (10 s), after the max over targets, leaving a fixed viewer delay alone.
  • Browser warmup clamp — the audio subscription max delay and container consumer, plus the video max-delay rendition, clamp catalog warmup at DELAY_MAX.
  • moq play audio target — held jitter plus catalog delay are capped as a sum at LATENCY_MAX in both the retarget and write paths.
  • Playout warmup cap — a private WARMUP_MAX and reach() cap the subscription widening and Consumer.warmup, covering moq-audio, moq-gst, moq-c, and moq-ffi's container path.
  • Docs and quest — the JS watch delay row notes the 10 s cap and the quest records the decisions.
Verification

The three JS clamps are load-bearing: reverting each source hunk makes its new test fail (sync.test.ts:130, audio/decoder.test.ts:664, video/decoder.test.ts:1656). The three watch suites pass (209 tests), and tsc --noEmit -p watch/tsconfig.json, biome on the changed TS files, and rustfmt --check on the changed Rust files are clean. Rust tests were not run in this sandbox (no just/nix; moq-cli playback needs alsa).

⚠️ The warmup ceiling does not reach Rust's video decoders

Both Rust video paths take the catalog warmup straight into the subscription Delay and hand Playout a zero warmup, so WARMUP_MAX never applies. A publisher advertising an hour of warmup still widens moq-video's and moq play's video subscriptions, and the start's reach, by an hour; moq-video is what moq-ffi uses to decode video for every SDK but Rust and JS, which is where the cross-package parity rule matters most.

Technical details
# Warmup cap misses moq-video and moq play's video refresh

## Affected sites
- `rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs:331-333` — the new `WARMUP_MAX`/`reach()` only fires when a caller passes `warmup` to `Playout`.
- `rs/moq-video/src/decode/consumer.rs:176-190` — `Consumer::new` reads `catalog.warmup` raw and adds it to the refresh lane's `Delay` min/max; `Reader::open` then builds `Playout::new(delay, Duration::ZERO)` (`:325`), so the cap never sees it.
- `rs/moq-cli/src/play/media.rs:319-338` — `moq play` mirrors that: `config.warmup` raw widens the refresh `Delay` and stays in `Refresh.warmup`, which `budget()` (`:144-149`) keeps adding to the subscription.

## Required outcome
A catalog `warmup` bounds every Rust decode path at 10 s, including `moq-video`'s two lanes and `moq play`'s refresh lane, so the PR's ceiling claim and the moq-ffi parity rule hold.

## Suggested approach
Clamp `warmup` where each path reads `catalog.warmup` (as the browser's `Rendition` now does), or move the cap somewhere all three sites share so they cannot drift. A test with an hour of warmup on `moq-video`/`moq-cli`, analogous to `the_playout_caps_a_huge_warmup`, pins it.

## Open questions for the human
Is leaving `moq-video` unbounded a deliberate follow-up, or should this PR finish the ceiling? If it is a follow-up, the PR body's "one 10 s ceiling holds everywhere" should say so explicitly.

ℹ️ The Rust Playout docs still promise the whole warmup

doc/lib/rs/hang.md:31 says a rendition's catalog warmup reaches back "up to that long"; the new WARMUP_MAX makes that at most 10 s. The PR already updated the JS page for the delay cap, so a clause here keeps the Rust and JS docs saying the same thing.

Technical details
# Rust hang docs stale on the warmup cap

## Affected sites
- `doc/lib/rs/hang.md:31` — "plus a rendition's catalog `warmup` passed to a `Playout`, waiting up to that long".

## Required outcome
The page states that the warmup reach is capped at 10 s.

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moq_video::decode::Consumer and moq play's refresh lane added a catalog warmup to the
delay raw. Both now clamp it with moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX, the cap Playout holds.

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Addressing Pullfrog's review in 51fca3b: the 10 s warmup ceiling now holds on Rust's video refresh lanes too.

  • moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX is now public, the one ceiling Playout already applies.
  • moq_video::decode::Consumer::new clamps the catalog warmup with it before widening the refresh lane's Delay. New test a_huge_warmup_reaches_back_by_the_cap uses an hour of warmup and fails without the clamp (subscription max 3600 s vs 10 s).
  • moq play's refresh (rs/moq-cli/src/play/media.rs) clamps the same way, so Refresh::warmup and budget() stay within it. It has no test of its own because opening it needs a real decoder.
  • Other readers checked: moq-audio, moq-ffi, and moq-gst pass warmup through Playout, which caps it. The @moq/watch audio and video decoders already clamp at DELAY_MAX. The C API forwards the catalog into the same paths.

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ℹ️ The Rust warmup cap now reaches moq-video and moq play; one claim in the quest record lags behind.

Reviewed changes

Reviewed the single commit since the prior pullfrog review, which closes the finding that WARMUP_MAX never applied to Rust's video decode paths.

  • moq-video warmup clamp — Consumer::new caps the catalog warmup at moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX before it widens the max-delay lane's min and max, since Reader::open hands Playout a zero warmup; the new test pins an hour of warmup to the cap through the publisher's aggregated subscription.
  • moq play refresh clamp — the refresh lane clamps config.warmup at the same constant before opening its Delay and before storing it in Refresh.warmup, which Video::budget() keeps adding to the subscription.
  • Shared constant — WARMUP_MAX and Playout::reach() docs were promoted to pub and re-exported from moq_mux::container so both crates clamp one value.

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✅ No new issues found.

Reviewed changes

Reviewed the one commit since the prior Pullfrog review (51fca3b21); it touches no source, only the quest record.

  • Quest record — the decision bullet now names all three Rust warmup clamp sites (moq_mux::container::Playout, moq_video's decode Consumer, and moq play's video refresh) and the closing line records moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX as the one export, replacing the stale "Public API: none" claim. Verified against the code: the constant is pub at rs/moq-mux/src/container/consumer.rs:333, re-exported at rs/moq-mux/src/container/mod.rs:35, and clamped at rs/moq-video/src/decode/consumer.rs:176 and rs/moq-cli/src/play/media.rs:319.

ℹ️ The Rust hang page still promises the whole warmup

Carried over from the first review so it does not get lost: doc/lib/rs/hang.md:31 says a rendition's catalog warmup passed to a Playout waits "up to that long". With WARMUP_MAX that is at most 10 s now, and doc/AGENTS.md asks a page to describe only what ships. It does not block merge; a clause saying the reach is capped keeps the Rust page matching the JS one this PR already updated.

Technical details
# Rust hang docs stale on the warmup cap

## Affected sites
- `doc/lib/rs/hang.md:31` — "plus a rendition's catalog `warmup` passed to a `Playout`, waiting up to that long for it when the newest group arrives first."
- `doc/lib/rs/hang.md:33-35` — repeats that a backlog "starts within `max`" and keeps "the warmup", both now also capped at 10 s.

## Required outcome
The page states that the warmup reach is capped at 10 s, matching `doc/lib/js/watch.md`'s new note on the delay ceiling.

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✅ No new issues found.

Reviewed changes

Reviewed the one commit since the prior pullfrog review (37cee3a65), which caps each decoder's join trim at the same 10 s ceiling the subscriptions already use, closing the last place an advertised warmup could outlast the media the reader receives.

  • Browser audio join trim — #runLegacyDecoder and #runCmafDecoder clamp Terminal.clear's warmup at DELAY_MAX, matching #subscribeMaxDelay and the container consumer; the delay-change test now asserts the trim argument.
  • moq-audio join trim — Consumer::new clamps the catalog warmup at moq_mux::container::WARMUP_MAX before it stores it for warmup_until, so an hour of advertised warmup no longer silences playback for an hour; a new test pins the boundary to the ceiling.
  • moq-gst join trim — OpusClip::new clamps its warmup at WARMUP_MAX before converting to 48 kHz samples, matching the Playout reach the reader subscribed with (both come from the same Shape.warmup); the existing clip test is extended.
  • Quest record — the decision bullet now records the capped trims, replacing the earlier note that they were left uncapped, and matches the PR body.

Verification: bun test src/audio/decoder.test.ts in js/watch is 69 pass. The new moq-audio test passes and is load-bearing: removing the .min(WARMUP_MAX) makes it fail with left: []. rustfmt --edition 2024 --check on both changed Rust files is clean. moq-gst cannot build here (no GStreamer dev libs), so that test is verified statically; its assertion fails without the clamp.

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