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| title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 9 October 2026" | ||
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| ## Attending | ||
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| Present/Contributing: Eduardo Rodrigues, Claire Antel, Johannes Elmsheuser, Michel Hernandez Villanueva, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Pere Mato, James Whitehead, Paul, Stefan Roiser | ||
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| Apologies: | ||
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| ## 1/6. News | ||
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| ### Advisory Group news and follow-ups | ||
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| Actions (still) from the last meeting: | ||
| - Attract representatives from ALICE - none yet found. Stop at this point? Agreed to close this task. | ||
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| Further news in due time post the AG meeting to be held during the WLCG/HSF workshop in Nov. | ||
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| ### Invitation to workshop on Agentic AI next | ||
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| - 3-day workshop on [Agentic AI, Gigantic Aims](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1735622/) to be held in Barcelona on April 5-7 2027. | ||
| - Invitation from our Spanish colleagues from the COMCHA network (contact: Arantza Oyanguren). | ||
| - Event will have roundtables with the physics coordinators of the experiments on interpretability and validity, on accessibility, on ethics (sustainability, security, authorship...) and on training. | ||
| - Invitation sent for HSF participation towards a workshop outcome by means of a manifesto or statement of recommendations. | ||
| - Invitation to have the HSF co-organise and prepare the agenda, with 2 HSF colleagues part of the organising committee. | ||
| - ACTION: agreed to have Claire and Michel H. Also agreed to have the HSF logo displayed on the event Indico page. | ||
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| ## 2/6. Joint WLCG/HSF workshop 2026 in Bologna | ||
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| - Indico: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1695268/>. | ||
| - Review of abstracts and agenda being finalized. | ||
| - We have a rather healthy number of abstracts for the several HSF parallel sessions (close to 20). | ||
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| #### AG meeting at the workshop | ||
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| Reminder - we will have another AG meeting during the Bologna workshop to (1) avoid having a long 1-year delay (as in the past) while (2) profiting from the fact that most AG members will be at the workshop anyway. | ||
| - Please share any points you may want discussed with the AG. | ||
| - One item we should add is a review of membership as we are approaching the first 2 years. | ||
| - Lack of engagement. | ||
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| ## 3/6. Activity Areas | ||
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| - A full report at the end of this year’s GSoC 2026 programme will be given at the joint WLCG/HSF workshop in Bologna. | ||
| - Series of HSF Seminars and Compute Accelerator Forum meetings: we've been seeing a great programme organised. Congrats! | ||
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| - Nothing particular to be reported from people in touch with AA conveners. | ||
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| - See agenda item "Miscellaneous HSF matters" for discussion of engagement of AA conveners. | ||
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| ## 4/6. "Responsible AI-assisted coding and common training aspects" endeavour, AI guidelines | ||
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| - Very successfully kicked off in July (<https://indico.cern.ch/event/1705480/>). | ||
| - Followed up with another meeting, and a dedicated session will run during the joint WLCG/HSF workshop. | ||
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| #### "AI Statement" for contributors to HSF repositories | ||
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| So far HSF repositories do not provide any statement on AI-powered/-helped contributions, and we are getting some regularly. On occasions we can be flooded by not-to-useful contributions. This year an “AI statement” is strongly suggested in GSoC proposals. We should do something similar. | ||
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| - There is an ongoing discussion at <https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/issues/1919> and there are 2 open PRs to review asap: | ||
| - <https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/pull/1953>: addition of CONTRIBUTING.md. | ||
| - <https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/pull/1949>: addition of PULL_REQUEST template. | ||
| - Both have been up for long time with no input other from 2 people. | ||
| - ACTION: please review next week and we will then go ahead and merge (can get follow up PRs if needed). | ||
| - (Note: the PRs are not exclusively about "AI contributions" - also include good etiquette, due diligence, etc.). | ||
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| ## 5/6. Project Affiliation and Affiliated Projects | ||
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| No new affiliations since we finalised a significant review of the programme. | ||
| - Status at <https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/projects/projects.html> - 6 projects affiliated. | ||
| - Final stamp from the SG to be decided now for the nopayloaddb - affiliated as Tier-2. | ||
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| The following list of projects to prioritise has been sent in Sep. to the AG for feedback: | ||
| - ACTS - Caterina to follow-up | ||
| - Clad | ||
| - CVMFS | ||
| - DD4hep | ||
| - EvtGen | ||
| - FastJet | ||
| - Gaudi - Stefan can do review, ditto for Paul | ||
| - Geant4 | ||
| - HepData | ||
| - HepMC3 | ||
| - HERWIG | ||
| - hls4ml - Eduardo to review with Maarten Van Veghel | ||
| - Invenio | ||
| - LHCb Conditions DB - Stefan / Paul | ||
| - Omnifold - Saptaparna to follow-up | ||
| - MCFM | ||
| - Millepede-II | ||
| - Phoenix - Johannes to follow-up - can do review, need to find 2nd reviewer | ||
| - PODIO - Michel V. to follow-up | ||
| - Rivet - Nicole and Menglin Xu starting the review | ||
| - Rucio - Paul following up - no differential review helps | ||
| - XRootD | ||
| - WHIZARD | ||
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| WIP ACTION: attach names to make things happen - basically a person to take care of finding 2 reviewers and potentially be a reviewer. | ||
| - Typical pool of reviewers: AA conveners, SG members, HSF affiliated project leads, expert community colleagues. | ||
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| ## 6/6. Miscellaneous HSF matters | ||
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| ### HSF Budget | ||
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| Healthy. Used recently to help presence of SG members at the WLCG/HSF workshop. | ||
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| ### Engagement within HSF bodies and with the community | ||
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| **Commitment within members:** | ||
| - Several AAs are very quiet, hardly engaging. | ||
| - The SG members need to lend a hand. | ||
| - It's too often the same colleagues over and over again taking up tasks. | ||
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| **Engagement community-HSF:** | ||
| - We need to better communicate with/to the outside world, meaning the community. | ||
| - The AG should play a role here, serving as liaison to Engaged Communities (i.e. experiments, community projects) other bodies. | ||
| - The HSF is not brought to the attention of new PhD students and early-career colleagues as nearly much as it could. This is a missed opportunity. More engagement would be beneficial to all. | ||
| - How to make the HSF and the Forum mailing list (more) widely known within the community? | ||
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| - Posters and LHC experiment PhD student welcome sessions mentioned. | ||
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| ### SG Composition | ||
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| - If you know of someone who is active in community work and shares the HSF's goals consider inviting them to be on the SG. | ||
| - We should review annually the composition. Reminder that our SG webpage states that _"When a SG member becomes inactive (e.g., ceases to meaningfully follow any HSF activities) in the HSF they will leave the SG."_. | ||
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| ### HSF GitHub matters | ||
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| A trivial little help reviewing meeting minutes and the odd open PR would be helpful. | ||
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| ## AOB | ||
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| ### Next Meeting | ||
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| TBD, as we see fit. (For sure after the WLCG/HSF workshop in Nov.) | ||
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